By Aaliyah Koelzer and Roland Murphy for AZBEX

A near-capacity crowd filled a conference room at the SkySong Innovation Center this week to hear the latest trends and concerns in the Valley’s shifting Industrial development market at the BEX Leading Market Series panel.

Some of the most prominent players in the field expressed their opinions—both data-driven and personal—about how 2023 has unfolded and what lies ahead.

The panel was comprised of:

  • Tammy Carr, Director of Business Development, Brinkmann Constructors – Moderator;
  • Alex Boles, Senior VP of Investments and Development, ViaWest Group;
  • Rusty Kennedy, Managing Director, Stream Realty Partners Industrial Division, and
  • Blake Wells, VP of Preconstruction, LGE Design Build.

The event was sponsored by Brinkmann Constructors.

After a brief introduction by BEX Founder and President Rebekah Morris, the panelists wasted no time jumping into their respective takes on current market statistics.

Kennedy started off with upbeat anecdotes on 2023 productivity. He said that 13.5MSF-15MSF of net absorption in 2023 has been, “Historically the best year ever,” if one excludes the outlying 2021 and 2022 industrial booms. Furthermore, vacancy rates sit at a healthy 5.15%.

He added, however, the 49MSF currently under construction was “a possible downer,” in that it could push vacancy toward 13% if everything delivers without any space being absorbed.

Boles, who quickly set himself apart as the foremost optimist of the group, was quick to contextualize that risk, pointing out that 13% possibility “gets cut in half” if the current mega-sized projects in the pipeline and the existing supply of obsolete space are eliminated from the calculation.

Looking at challenges in the market, Boles said it is harder to develop now than it has recently been because of a trifecta of issues: capitalization challenges, high construction costs and long lead times.

Kennedy delivered his own good news, reporting that while construction costs do remain high, they have fallen around 15% from their previous highs and are expected to continue decreasing. Compounding on that point, Boles added that rent rates continue to increase, which has been a saving point for many developers.

Current Projects, Concerns and the 2024 Pipeline

Looking at the 49MSF of industrial developments under construction in the Phoenix metro area, Kennedy said 23% of space has been pre-leased or spoken for. He specifically mentioned Stream Realty’s excitement on being appointed the leasing agent on the sizable Mack Innovation Park project in Deer Valley, which has more than half of its current 950KSF of available space leased.

Kennedy also acknowledged the effect the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company development has had on its presence in the Valley, attracting many suppliers to the region, as well as much of the labor force.

Boles and Wells both had concerns to express regarding the type of developments that quickly grew in popularity through 2021 and 2022. They both claimed the Valley has received bloated products in the form of 1MSF-plus “bombers” and spec sites that are too ambitious for the matured 2023 industrial market.

According to Wells, the market is currently too crowded, and larger projects are being cut into phases. The biggest ones being developed right now, he said, are around 300KSF. What used to be a five- or six-building campus is now one- or two-. Boles agreed and said small and mid-sized boxes were still in demand, specifically from Deer Valley down Interstate 17 to Interstate 10.

Finding Deals in a Saturated Market

Despite a strong market, opportunity acts as gold, in that it is hard to find unless you know where to look. The panelists unanimously agreed upon a difficult trifecta of prevailing fundamental market issues: high construction costs, expensive land, and tight lending.

Given these circumstances, location and size are currently crucial factors in success. According to Boles, this is expected to last for at least another six to eight months.

He added, however, that the current situation actually presents the market and industry with a much-needed opportunity to regroup and regain perspective and focus after an extended period of frenzy. He explained to the audience the Federal Reserve’s aggressive interest rate increase campaign has been part of a strategy to slow the economy from its previously unsustainable fever pitch, adding that the Fed could “quickly put its foot back on the gas” when the economy enters more stable parameters.

Staying with the economic focus, Wells again said that construction costs will likely continue to decrease in the foreseeable future, adding that site work costs are typically the overpriced variable in today’s bids.

Kennedy then gave his view on the current price of land in the Valley, focusing on the misinformation and miscommunication between landowners and developers. “Educating landowners on realistic and modern comparative prices while also utilizing possible joint venture structures has forced the market to be creative,” he said.

Advantages and Disadvantages of Booming Cities

Another issue enthusiastically taken up by the panelists was the challenges and inefficiencies city reviewers and councils have added in recent years. Imposing requirements that appear to clash with existing stipulations have caused delays in planning and design timelines. “Cities are tripping over themselves with these conflicting requirements,” Boles stated when discussing a particular unnamed project as an example, where the city required a fountain but lacked the water supply to operate one if built.

TSMC has not helped” he added, “They have taken the attention of city planners, leaving other projects lacking the attention they need.” They have also taken the most experienced planning staff from cities, leaving existing staff members with less experience and expertise in place and slowing down the process across the board.

Boles added another difficulty is that some areas, such as Mesa and parts of the West Valley, went too far in on distribution projects and are now changing review standards to favor manufacturing-based projects that create greater numbers of long-term jobs.

Wells expanded on the difficulties with inexperienced and under-staffed planning departments, noting the review process is currently taking more than a year across the entire Valley. As a result of lower personnel counts and staff inexperience, he says an inversion has occurred in the standard review process.

In a normal environment, projects would see the greatest volume of comments, input and recommended changes at the beginning of the planning process, with the number and scope decreasing as a project makes its way through reviews.

Now, Wells said, the scale and volume of comments are increasing the farther along a project progresses, adding cost, time and complication to the process in a manner exactly the opposite of the norm.

Power supply for ongoing and upcoming projects was also deemed as one of the area’s most concerning and hardest to address inefficiencies. With the need to meet the demands of Phoenix’s construction boom, power availability lacks the necessary infrastructure. To install the utilities required to sustain the enormous amount of development, considerable thought and time are required, and both utility companies and municipalities would have had to have psychic abilities in place five years ago to accurately predict today’s needs, the panelists agreed.

Adapting New Strategies for the Near Future

Despite the current and pending challenges in the market, the panelists all remain optimistic about the Industrial construction market now and for the foreseeable future. Based on their views of a challenging but promising 15–20-year outlook, they each felt it is safe to say that Phoenix will continue to perform as one of the best markets for industrial real estate development.

Kennedy reminded the audience that the Phoenix and overall Arizona economies have diversified significantly in the last decade-and-a-half, leading to increased stability and wider opportunities. He expressed confidence the market components and players will figure out how best to interact as the “new normal” continues to expand.

Boles once again stressed that the current “little breather,” as he described the market cooldown, is a good thing, and reminded the audience that the Phoenix area’s market fundamentals remain strong.

Wells concurred, pointing out that with the slowdown, developers and their partners can once again focus on building relationships rather than rushing to put out fires in a constant frenzy. That, he said, will ultimately boost quality and strengthen both the industry and the market.

STEVE BOSCHEN
ASSISTANT DIRECTOR - INFRASTRUCTURE DELIVERY & OPERATIONS
ADOT

 

Steve Boschen currently serves as an assistant director of ADOT overseeing the Infrastructure Delivery and Operations (IDO) Division, which oversees all statewide construction project delivery, including ADOT and Local Public Agency projects, and statewide operations and maintenance. Steve is responsible for Project Management, Operations, Project Delivery, Contracts and Local Public Agency areas of ADOT, which include a total of 20 groups and districts. This includes the development, construction, maintenance and operation of more than 28,000 lane miles of interstate and state highways in Arizona. He rejoined ADOT in October 2012 as a deputy state engineer for Project Delivery after a 20-year stint in the engineering consulting industry. Steve has a bachelor’s degree in civil engineering from the University of Arizona and is a registered professional engineer in the state of Arizona.

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WENDY COHEN
PRESIDENT & CEO
KITCHELL

 

As President & CEO, Wendy leads Kitchell Corporation with a collaborative spirit. Kitchell Corporation includes four diverse operating companies, Kitchell Contractors Inc., Kitchell Capital Expenditure Managers Inc., Kitchell Development Company Inc., and American Refrigeration Supplies. Wendy is passionate about developing a strategy and culture that allows for innovation and change in the construction industry. With 30 years of experience, Wendy's journey in the building industry has been marked by significant roles as a general contractor, construction manager, consultant, and owner, culminating in her current leadership at Kitchell. Wendy is a proven leader and trusted advisor and is committed to developing future leaders and implementing innovative ideas to improve the built environment. Her experience leading high-performance teams paved the way for her current role at Kitchell, which is consistently ranked among the top Construction Management, Program Management and General Contracting firms both regionally and nationally. Beyond her corporate achievements, she is active in the community and industry. She serves on the boards of the Greater Sacramento Economic Council, Greater Phoenix Economic Council, and Greater Phoenix Leadership. In 2024, Wendy and Kitchell were accepted into the Global Design Allowance as the newest Board of Director and joined the American Contractors Insurance Group (ACIG) as its Executive Member.

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ERIC FROBERG
CITY ENGINEER
CITY OF PHOENIX

 

Eric has served as City Engineer for the City of Phoenix since January 2019, which included a 6 month assignment as Interim Director of Water Services, a 5 month assignment as Interim Director of Public Works, and a 1 month assignment of Street Transportation. Eric possesses over a quarter century of relevant public works and land development engineering experience. Prior to joining the City of Phoenix, most recently Eric was the New Mexico Operations Manager for TYLIN International and prior to that was a Senior Project Manager for RBF Consulting. After spending two decades working as a private consultant, Eric desired to utilize his engineering and management expertise in a way that more directly benefited the public. As the City Engineer for the nation’s 5th largest City, Eric is responsible for overseeing the selection of architects, engineers & contractors and the execution the City's 5-year, $11 billion Capital Improvement Program, including serving as the program manager for the current $500M General Obligation Bond program. Eric holds a bachelor’s degree in Civil Engineering from the University of Arizona and is a Registered Professional Engineer in Arizona, California, and New Mexico. Eric is currently a member of the Alumni Industry Council for the University of Arizona, previously held the position of State Director for ACEC-NM.

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REBEKAH MORRIS
PRESIDENT & FOUNDER
ARIZONA BUILDER'S EXCHANGE

 

Rebekah started the twice-weekly AZBEX publication in February 2010, and has since grown the service into a multi-faceted resource for local Commercial Real Estate & A/E/C firms to find leads on upcoming projects, industry news, trends, and market insights. In 2015, AZBEX started producing events and now features four annual half-day conferences and six breakfast panels known as the Leading Market Series. In 2016, the AZBEX Database or DATABEX was launched. Both the events and database are engineered to bring opportunities to clients – whether it’s the contacts made at a half-day conference or bi-monthly breakfast program or the early stage notice of a project in the database, every service of AZBEX is focused on bringing opportunity to clients. Rebekah’s background as a large General Contractor enabled her to spot the opportunity to start BEX, but it is her grit, determination and eternal curiosity for the industry that has kept it going and growing each year.

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SUSANNA STRUBLE
TOWN ENGINEER - CIP MANAGER
TOWN OF GILBERT

 

Susanna Struble is the Town of Gilbert’s Assistant Town Engineer/ CIP Manager, with more than 35 years of related private consulting and municipal engineering experience. She currently manages a team of 12 CIP project managers in the development, design and construction of a $3.5B 10 year Capital Improvement Program. Prior to joining Gilbert, Susanna served as Public Works Director/City Engineer for Coolidge, Arizona; various engineering positions with Willdan Engineering which included serving as the regional manager for the Phoenix operation for over 10 years; City Engineer in Show Low Arizona and Assistant County Engineer in Eagle County, Colorado. Ms. Struble is a Registered Professional Civil Engineer in the State of Arizona; she received her Bachelor’s Degree in Civil Engineering from University of Wyoming.

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ALISON TYMKIW
CITY ENGINEER
CITY OF SCOTTSDALE

 

Alison Tymkiw is currently serving as the City Engineer for the City of Scottsdale, Arizona. Alison is responsible for administering the City’s Capital Improvement Program and she manages the Capital Project Management Division which is responsible for the planning, design and construction of infrastructure improvement around the city. Alison has worked for the City of Scottsdale since 1998 and has previously held the positions of Civil Engineer, Project Manager and Senior Project Manager prior to promotion to her current role as City Engineer. Prior to joining the City of Scottsdale, Alison worked for engineering design and consulting firms, first in Connecticut and then in the local Phoenix area. Alison holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Civil Engineering from Lehigh University, and she is a Registered Professional Engineer in the State of Arizona.

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AALIYAH KOELZER
DATABEX RESEARCHER
BEX

 

Aaliyah is a DATABEX Researcher specializing in Arizona’s Commercial Real Estate Market. Starting his construction career in the field, Aaliyah gained hands on skills working as a stonemason in the northern state of Montana. After obtaining a Bachelor’s degree in Economics and Mathematics, he moved to the Grand Canyon State to gain further experience in Real Estate Development and Construction Management.

Currently Aaliyah manages and maintains the entirety of DATABEX’s active Industrial, Hospitality, Healthcare, Office and Retail projects in
Arizona.

Three interesting facts about Aaliyah:
- He is an avid angler and bowhunter
- He enjoys playing the guitar in his free time
- He played soccer for the Montana State University Men’s Soccer Club

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ANDREA HOWARD
MARKET RESEARCHER
BEX

 

Andrea is a market researcher for BEX. She specializes in scouring permit sites, council meetings, and any other sources she can find to provide the most up to date information for the multifamily sector. Since joining the company in 2021 she has learned to spot construction trends to not only supply updates to DATABEX, but to gain insight into the shifting market.

Fun facts about Andrea
- She is originally from Texas
- She has a Bachelor’s degree in Japanese Language
- She was an Arabic linguist in the Air Force

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REBEKAH MORRIS
FOUNDER & PRESIDENT
BEX

 

Rebekah started the twice-weekly AZBEX publication in February 2010, and has since grown
the service into a multi-faceted resource for local Commercial Real Estate and A/E/C firms to find leads on upcoming projects, industry news, trends, and market insights. In 2015, AZBEX started producing events and now features four annual half-day conferences and six breakfast panels known as the Leading Market Series.

In 2016, the AZBEX Database or DATABEX was launched. Both the events and database are engineered to bring opportunities to clients – whether it’s the contacts made at a half-day conference or bi-monthly breakfast program or the early stage notice of a project in the database, every service of AZBEX is focused on bringing opportunity to clients.

Rebekah’s background as a large General Contractor enabled her to spot the opportunity to start BEX, but it is her grit, determination and eternal curiosity for the industry that has kept it going and growing each year.

Three fun facts about Rebekah:
- Hobbies include running, cooking, reading and hanging out with her husband and kids
- She has a degree in construction engineering
- She cannot whistle

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LYA PARRISH
DATABEX MANAGER
BEX

 

Lya Parrish is the DATABEX Manager for BEX, Arizona’s leading Construction Market Research company. Lya holds a Bachelor’s degree in Political Science and a Master’s degree in Policy and Applied Social Research. She has been actively studying the Arizona Construction market since 2015.

She leads a team of six full-time Market Researchers and is responsible for training and development of staff, market analytics, and development of the technical aspects of DATABEX.

Three fun facts about Lya:
- She is a Sci-Fi/Fantasy, LEGO, and cross-stitch fanatic
- She has two nearly identical cats
- Her childhood home is roughly 1,000 yards from the BEX Office in Central Phoenix

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